Okay, I've mentioned before that I find Walmart very frustrating. I've had a problem maintaining my grocery shopping composure on more than one occasion, but I have to admit that deep down, I love Walmart. There are two other grocery stores in a reasonable distance from my house, but I always opt for Walmart. Not only are they less expensive, they have pretty much anything I could possibly need.
I've been following a discussion (here, here, and here) about whether Walmart encourages or discourages community. The debate is interesting in that it makes you wonder what the true definition of community is. Does corporate America take away from the community by making retail service less personal? Of course "Walmart America" is the only America I've ever known, so I can't quite identify with the sense of loss of local retailers. I suspect I've just been brainwashed into appreciating Walmart and other chains like it. When I'm travelling, I am much more likely to stop at a Walmart where I already know my way around, than I am to stop at an unknown local store. When I'm out of town, I'm more likely to eat at McDonald's (which I don't really like) than at a local place...at least I know what I'm getting. What can I say? It's the American way.
Well, obviously a lot has been and could be said on this subject. Frankly, I feel like Walmart dominates the nation because they're good at what they do. One of the consequences of that is that the entire nation is starting to look the same. Is capitalism morphing into socialism? Perhaps, but if a city doesn't want itself to start looking like a cookie-cutter of the next city over, the city council has the right to keep big business out and preserve that small-town feeling.
Overall, I have to agree that Walmart does not encourage community. However, I must say that when I'm in the express lane behind someone who has 50 items and is trying to buy beer and cigarettes with food stamps, and the cashier turns on that flashing light because she's out of quaters, the people in line behind me and I have a sense of comaraderie...maybe it's not community so much as a sense of common suffering...sort of like when you're on an airplane and you hit some bad turbulence: you develop a bond (albeit short-lived) between the people next to you.
I am a creature of habit...I will keep shopping at Walmart...but I don't have to like it.
We used to go shopping late at night at the 24 hour Wal-Mart when we were newly married... wow. It's amazing who will do their grocery shopping at 2 a.m. in the morning. (well, besides us)
Posted by: Shannon at July 2, 2003 02:27 PMTwo words: Super Target.
All the benefits of Walmart, none of the frustration.
Posted by: kristen at July 2, 2003 02:44 PMTarget is for yuppies. WalMart is awesome 'cause it's the joint for the every-dirt-poor-man, supplying back hills country folks in the middle of nowehere with whatever they need. Target on the otherhand, is the uber-store for suburbia...
Posted by: JosiahQ at July 2, 2003 02:50 PMWe don't have a Super Target here, we only have a mere mortal Target. I love Target if I need to decorate or buy cheap, yet attractive clothes or shoes, but when it comes to almost anything else, Walmart is cheaper.
...of course, time is money and Target is much more efficient when it comes to customer service, but alas, it's on the other side of town for me, so the "time is money" argument doesn't really apply.
Posted by: Christin at July 2, 2003 03:01 PMwhats wrong with suburbia?
Posted by: dp at July 2, 2003 03:49 PMnothing...I guess...
Posted by: JosiahQ at July 2, 2003 04:40 PMSuperTarget has groceries at very fair prices. Their brand, Archer Farms, has really good products nearly always compareable to "name brands." The drug store-type items at ST are often a wee bit more expensive than Wal-Mart but I guess you pay for the atmosphere... Oh, and there's a Starbucks cafe in the store so that's another plus... a little latte while you shop.
I am so sad that Austin does not yet have a SuperTarget.
Posted by: kristen at July 2, 2003 06:57 PMAnd Josiah, when April finds something like a cute red shift dress for $17 at Target that people think you got from Anne Taylor Loft, the whole suburban yuppie thing will stop bothering you.
Posted by: kristen at July 2, 2003 06:59 PMThis is true, and maybe it's just the fact I got spoiled working in a fine Italian restaurant sipping 200 dollar bottles of Pinot Grigio, but if I'm buying a gift for the wifey, I just can't help buying the damn most expensive thing I can afford. I try to live as simply as possible, you konw, like Thoreau or something. I don't need a fancy car or whatever. But if I've got it to spend, and I'm buying something for someone, I do try to buy the best (i.e. most expensive) thing I can...
Posted by: JosiahQ at July 2, 2003 10:35 PMwell when austin or chatty get a super target, i guess i'll know what i was missing. my bet is on austin.
Posted by: dp at July 3, 2003 07:30 PMIs there anything that can be done about big box companies such as Wal-Mart, Target, Gap, Kohl' Banana Republic and Sam's Club? The answer is yes! With the introducton of Rage Wear Inc. (Retail on Steroids) based 100% on the World Wide Web, I aim to take a Evander Holyfield sized shot at big box competition. Shop at Wal-Mart and you pay tax, order online and you pay tax plus shipping, you just can't win...unil now. Due to the fact that the government is busy smackin it in strip clubs and bordellos, sales tax on the Internet has yet to be enforced, add to that the savings from the lack of gas you will use getting stuck in traffic on your way to these gigantic corporations, peace of mind from the stress that you won't endure from shopping from the comfort of your own home and the low shipping charges and Rage Wear Inc. not only saves you mucho money but also plenty of time, gas, insurance money and most importantly peace of mind. We as Americans have the power to do something about the growing threat of Godzilla mart the world's biggest enviormental terroists, we as a nation have the power to boycott and put an end to the tyrany of Wal-Mart. They don't care about you, they don't care about me and all we are is numbers to them, another day anoter dollar. We alone have the power to say no more, we alone have the power to say enough is enough and Rage Wear Inc. is prepared to form an alternitive to fill the void once Wal-mart is gone. In just a few weeks, www.RageWearInc.com will be fully operational and all of us will be able to enjoy at home shopping without the stress, headache and large spending sprees attached. Save time, money and sanity, shop Rage Wear Inc.
Posted by: The Almighty Rage at September 30, 2003 11:16 PMchristen, why would you eat at a place where you don't even like the food? Life is too short!! The best times are to be found when you just wander off that beaten path. And the best food!
Oh yeah, I hate Walmart. Went once. Bunch of crap.
Thought we found a car seat cheaper, but it wasn't a comparable model. Returning it (with receipt, in original box, etc) was like going to the dentist.
They took it out of the box to see if all the styrofoam was still there! I live where the original superstore began (NO, it wasn't Walmart)
and I am committed to supporting local business, local farmers, you name it. We will have no one but outselves to blame when everything has left our country. You think it's bad having most of your oil imported -- wait until it's all of our food! You don't think it's a problem when Walmart forces suppliers to sell cheaper than they can make their product? They have to sell to Walmart, it's the biggest retailer in the country -- but they have to make a profit, so, now the manufacturing goes south. Way south. Or to the far East. Now another 500, 1000, 100,000 people are out of work, having to spend their meager unemployment at Walmart. Vicious cycle.
haha i absolutly LOVE walmart!!! they are way cheaper than target!! target is never stocked and the people that work there are really snooty!! there is always boxes all over and they are always seeming to have a problem with some thing whenever we go there. walmart is always quick to make us satisfied they have wonder ful service and prices and they will honor cuopons and take the price off if you find it some where else if it was cheaper.so yeah im a die hard walmart lover we go every two weeks at least!!
Posted by: megan at November 6, 2003 03:00 PMI'm terrified by all this. Utterly mortified.
This can't be right. Can't you all feel the wrongness when you're in Wal-Mart? I grew up in big box world too. I admit I gravitate to these familiar names....store layouts...[distrubingly] low prices......but it's always felt so.....................wrong.
It's kind of like a child raised in abusive family who once on his/her own ends up starting an abusive family. This is an extreme example, but still apt, I think.
Posted by: Meagan at November 7, 2003 05:58 AMBottom line,
Wal-Mart sucks and is evil. It is destroying America. The majority of their products are made by slave labor. They treat their employees like crap.
They suck. Just plain suck. Shop Target. Nicer stores, cooler commercials too! Wal-Mart is killing all the small business across America. If you love America, avoid Wal-Mart like the plague.
Posted by: jamesr at November 25, 2003 01:40 PMI am a producer of an NPR radio program, and I am looking for a fan of Walmart to join us on our daily current affairs program, To The Point, to discuss why they like the store. If this interests you, please e-mail me at frances.anderton@kcrw.org with information about how I can contact you. The program airs Monday, December 2, at 2:10PM Eastern. Thanks very much.
Posted by: Frances Anderton at November 26, 2003 03:33 PMNo, thanks. There are many things I'm willing to defend publicly. Walmart is not one of them. I'm just using my blog to shoot my mouth off.
Posted by: Christin at December 1, 2003 09:09 AMDon't Buy Wal-Mart for the Holidays
Wal-Mart engages in some of the worst labor practices in the country: paying its employees substandard wages, forcing unpaid overtime on its workers and refusing to provide affordable health insurance.
This holiday season, pledge not to shop at Wal-Mart and to ask your friends and families not to buy you gifts from Wal-Mart until the chain:
-- Pays its one million workers a living wage
-- Provides affordable health insurance to its employees
-- Stops discriminating against women
-- Stops attacking employees who want to be represented by a union
-- Ceases forcing unpaid overtime on its employees
-- Stops pressuring suppliers to lower their labor costs
Tell Wal-Mart that until it changes its ways, you will take your holiday shopping to other stores and will urge your friends and family to do the same.
TAKE ACTIONTAKE ACTION
Posted by: Christina at December 3, 2003 03:03 PMIsn't it neat having your blog hijacked to serve someone else's purpose? (I assume you don't know "Christina"?)
Posted by: andy at December 3, 2003 03:59 PMThis Walmart post must be popular on Google. I've had to delete some really rude comments from it, but I'm especially proud of being offered an interview on NPR.
Posted by: Christin at December 4, 2003 10:04 AMDid you ever wonder why Target never has long lines at the check-outs. Lets think about it. Oh maybe its because THERE ARE NO CUSTOMERS other than you and two customers who don't want to stand in line at Walmart and listen to everyones screaming children and dumbass customers who think they have the right to use express checkout because they can't count past thier ten fingers, when they have $200.00 dollars worth of groceries and they want to add match and of course they have food stamps and wic. By the time the idiot has argued with the cashier and refused to move to a standard checkout they could have already been checked out. Of course the poor lady who came in for tylenol and orange juice has stood in express and listened to this crap for 20 minutes and has learned that next time she needs just a couple of items for the flu, she would rather go to target and pay $2.62 more for her two items than go through hell to get over the flu. I work at Walmart and the associates have to let the customers do what they want because they call home office and complain and we have apologize and then give them a gift card. Then the next time they come in and try to return a T.V. that is clearly marked TARGET on the receipt and the merchandise we have to take it back and allow them to get another tv from our sells floor. Because we want to keep there business. We have customers who come in and call our associates "Stupid N---- B------. These customers are allowed to carry on like this and the assoiciates are so belittled. Some of have to keep our jobs and suck it up. When we start hiring we will interview 10 people at a time.
We will find 6 out of 10 whom don't expect bankers hours and realize that they can't be the store manager, just because they ran a 7-11 overnights. Out of those 6, 3 will pass the mandatory prehiring drug test. Of course this is a long drawn explanation when a customer asks why can't you hire more cashiers?
dont you need some kind of drug to help you, knowing you may be getting a dead end job with no future.
Posted by: bruce bailey at December 21, 2003 09:56 AMChristin,
I never before noticed this string of blathering. It really kind of freaks me out.
Posted by: Deacon Blues at February 10, 2004 12:11 PMIt freaks you out!? How do you think it makes me feel?
Posted by: Christin at February 10, 2004 12:54 PMLOL... I regularly check this comment thread. It freaks me out, as well. Man, I really need to think of a good "google-worthy" topic like this one.
Posted by: andy at February 11, 2004 05:44 PMDear Site Manager,
We are a group of concerned citizens in San Marcos, California, trying to stop a second WalMart from being built in our community, in a residential neighborhood. We have hit the streets and knocked on our neighbors' doors, encouraging them to Vote No on G (the proposition that will block the building of the second WalMart) on March 2, but we know we need financial resources to effectively fight this David vs. Goliath battle.
Can you help? By simply forwarding the attached email to your subscriber list? We are not interested in capturing your lists or violating anyone's privacy in any way, we just want to get our plea for financial help out to as many people as possible. A contribution of even $20.00 can help us put up the signs, buy postage to get out the mail, and defeat this assault on our community.
If your site doesn't allow the attachment with this email, but you are willing to help us fight WalMart by forwarding our email to your subscribers, please contact us directly and we'll send the email to you by another method.
Feel free to contact me with any questions. Hoping for your affirmative response.
Sincerely,
Bob Glaser
SaveSanMarcos.org
bobglaser@aol.com
(858) 496-8896
Dear Site Manager,
We are a group of concerned citizens in San Marcos, California, trying to stop a second WalMart from being built in our community, in a residential neighborhood. We have hit the streets and knocked on our neighbors' doors, encouraging them to Vote No on G (the proposition that will block the building of the second WalMart) on March 2, but we know we need financial resources to effectively fight this David vs. Goliath battle.
Can you help? By simply forwarding the attached email to your subscriber list? We are not interested in capturing your lists or violating anyone's privacy in any way, we just want to get our plea for financial help out to as many people as possible. A contribution of even $20.00 can help us put up the signs, buy postage to get out the mail, and defeat this assault on our community.
If your site doesn't allow the attachment with this email, but you are willing to help us fight WalMart by forwarding our email to your subscribers, please contact us directly and we'll send the email to you by another method.
Feel free to contact me with any questions. Hoping for your affirmative response.
Sincerely,
Bob Glaser
SaveSanMarcos.org
bobglaser@aol.com
I think your Wal-Mart post has really gotten out of hand.
Posted by: the booth at February 11, 2004 11:55 PMWell I don't have the time or the will to read through all the comments on this huge thing, but I'll still add in my two cents. I hate walmart. But go capitalism!
Posted by: Gray at February 12, 2004 05:24 PM