C. S. Lewis wrote:
Suppose the reformer stops saying that a good woman may be like God and begins saying that God is like a good woman. Suppose he says that we might just as well pray to "Our Mother which art in heaven" as to "Our Father". Suppose he suggests that the Incarnation might just as well have taken a female as a male form, and the Second Person of the Trinity be as well called the Daughter as the Son. Suppose, finally, that the mystical marriage were reversed, that the Church were the Bridegroom and Christ the Bride. . . .Now it is surely the case that if all these supposals were ever carried into effect we should be embarked on a different religion. Goddesses have, of course, been worshipped: many religions have had priestesses. But they are religions quite different in character from Christianity. Common sense, disregarding the discomfort, or even the horror, which the idea of turning all our theological language into the feminine gender arouses in most Christians, will ask "Why not? Since God is in fact not a biological being and has no sex, what can it matter whether we say He or She, Father or Mother, Son or Daughter?"
But Christians think that God Himself has taught us how to speak of Him. To say that it does not matter is to say either that all the masculine imagery is not inspired, is merely human in origin, or else that, though inspired, it is quite arbitrary and unessential. And this is surely intolerable . . . . It is also surely based on a shallow view of imagery. Without drawing upon religion, we know from our poetical experience that image and apprehension cleave closer together than common sense is here prepared to admit; that a child who has been taught to pray to a Mother in Heaven would have a religious life radically different from that of a Christian child. . . .
In light of that, check out this video of a Lutheran congregation in San Francisco: Her Church (video plays in browser window)
If you visit their website you will find the "goddess" version of the Christian Paternoster:
Our Mother who is within us
we celebrate your many names.
Your wisdom come
your will be done
unfolding from the depths within us.
Each day you give us all that we need.
You remind us of our limits and we let go.
You support us in our power and we act with courage.
For you are the dwelling place within us
the empowerment around us
and the celebration among us
now and for ever. Amen
Or read about the Goddess Rosary:
Hail Goddess full of grace.
Blessed are you
and blessed are all the fruits
of your womb.
For you are the MOTHER of us all.
Hear us now
and in all our needs.
O blessed be, O blessed be. Amen
(adapted from Carol Christ)
Now, with a straight face and your hand on the Bible, tell me this is the same thing as the Christianity received from the Apostles.
Posted by Clifton at March 17, 2006 09:57 AM | TrackBackYikes! Lord have mercy on us all!
Posted by: Eric at March 17, 2006 11:12 AMIf they only could have learned to read and write in the time of nicea. We would not be having this discussion. O'course we do not know that, cause it was illegal( and probably immoral at that time) to educate livestock or women.
A funny post though, thanks Clifton.
Best regards
Of course the whole movement started in the RCC - the WomenChurch movement. Ebenezer seems to have taken the next logical step - undoing any sense of balance the feminists wanted and swinging all the way over: kicking out the patriarchy entirely.
Their worship is very like that of another congregation that I used to attend, although HerChurch has woven in some serious strains of feminism and paganism - and tossed out the other language. It becomes a mirror image of what they say they oppose. Not very helpful at all!
When I was a member of SGN, liturgically leading prayers one Sunday, it was a member of HerChurch that told me to stop praying for the Lutheran Church (ELCA) because they hate gay people. Mindful that at SGN they also prayed for everyone else's conversion - we're right everyone else is wrong. (another mirror).
That lack of Charity is, to me, a bigger issue than the surface stuff we see on the video.
Posted by: Huw Raphael at March 17, 2006 07:28 PMAs Agatha Christie's Sir Henry Clithering used to say, "Ye gods and little fishes." "Blessed be" is, I'm told, *exclusively* pagan. And while I didn't know about the WomenChurch movement, that does ring true, given the claptrap that regularly comes to my mailbox from the Daughters of Wisdom nuns who taught in my high school, Our Lady of Wisdom Academy. I thank God daily, and increasingly, that I'm now Orthodox.
Posted by: Meg Lark at March 18, 2006 05:43 AM